Friday, February 12, 2010

What is your or the definition of a 'true Christian, Atheist, Jewish, Muslim person'?

Since I have have been on yahoo answers I have noticed that some people refer too, who is supposedly 'A true Christian, Jewish, Muslim or Atheist person etc '. So it made me think of this question how do we/or you define who is a True 'whatever faith/Non faith', and does the concept of 'true' matter. Who is right or wrong and does it matter and why?.





Thank you for your replies.





What is your or the definition of a 'true Christian, Atheist, Jewish, Muslim person'?
True Christian/Jew/Atheist/Muslim has no meaning. It's a common logical fallacy to assert that it does, but it's still intellectually worthless.





Someone could say that no Scotsman puts sugar in his porridge. Well, I say, my friend Angus does put sugar in his porridge. The other person would then say Ah, but no True Scotsman™ puts sugar in his porridge. Angus is a Scotsman no matter what this idiot says, thus showing the complete worthlessness of this line of reasoning. What is your or the definition of a 'true Christian, Atheist, Jewish, Muslim person'?
The atheist is the only one in that group that can clearly be defined.


And you have already received enough definitions for that.


Now if you just look at Christians for example, they have around 1500 different sects, all say they are the only true Christians. I cant find any common Christian definition .


The other religious groups have different sects, but not as many as the Christians, each one of these sects will swear theirs is the only true group.


At least we atheists have one thing in common, we dont believe in God, we do believe all your religions are fabrications.
I would regard someone who is ';true'; as a person who is 100% committed to that belief and understands it fully. I do not believe that Islamic terrorists are ';true muslims'; for example. Radical, yes. But not true to their faith as there is nothing in Islam that warrants war. Just things that some find easy to take out of context and radicalise. I also believe someone who is true would not sin.
Ach, lassie, do ye know a TRUE Scotsman? Didn't think so but basically it's this:





True Jew: Follows the basic tenets written in the Tenakh.


True Christian: Follows the basic tenets written in the New Testament.


True Muslim: Follows the basic tenets written in the Koran


True atheist: Believes in now gods or supernatural beings.
A true Christian you'll know by their fruits.





A true Jewish person...I dunno, lineage? Jews have their own rules on that, like this one: A Jew who believes in Christ can't call themselves a Jew according to Jews. A Jew who is an atheist can still be called a Jew. Yeah, I don't get it either.





A true Muslim, no idea...but unflattering things come to mind.





A true atheist, or anyone who calls themselves an atheist is a person who wants something that's not an identity to be counted as an identity.
A ';true atheist'; is one who truly does not believe in any gods, whatever else they may believe. That's it.





For the others however there's always a much more stringent set of criteria which changes from denomination to denomination. Whether it's Orthodox Jews vs. Reform, or Sunni vs Shi'a, or Catholics vs Protestants vs Orthodox vs Mormons vs JWs etc... there's always someone denying that the others are true believers.
Christian- someone who trusts in Jesus Christ with their salvation %26amp; strives to live a life pleasing to Him.





Jewish- one who is circumcised in his heart toward the God of Abraham





Muslim- one who follows Islam





Atheist- does not believe in god(s)....a= no theist=belief in god





Agnostic- does not know for sure a=no gnostic= know
I am beginning to think that *true* Christians are intolerant of others.





But my actual belief of how the world works, is that TRUE Christians ARE flexible and it's the bigots who are not and misrepresent it all. I guess the a**h*l*s just show their colors more often.
The definition of 'Jewish' is simple:





You are Jewish if:





- your mother is Jewish


- you convert to Judaism


- you are born Jewish AND haven't adopted any other religion





No other definition is relevant, because only Judaism gets to define 'Jewish'.
I've wondered why people say that too.


I wouldn't even try to define it.


It comes across to me as judgemental, (just my opinion) so it's not a term i use or like. I'll leave it up to Almighty God.





blessings : )
True Christian: Lives by Jesus' word and not the Bible's


True Jew: Descended from Abraham.


Don't know about true Muslim


True Atheist: Lacks a belief in the supernatural and trusts science.
my definition of all those is of overall often surprisingly intelligent folk whom have a belief they will not sway from despite and logical arguments and are also often intolerant of each others religion.
An Indian is one who lives in India


A Christian is one who lives in Christ.
a true atheist is someone who doesnt believe in any deity
The atheist is the only one with nothing to prove!
They would have to not just follow but live their beliefs.....
Do to others what you would have them do to you
They are all God's children,

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